{"id":9939,"date":"2019-08-22T06:00:24","date_gmt":"2019-08-22T10:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ben-sternke-live.prev17.rmkr.net\/?p=9939"},"modified":"2025-03-07T18:54:56","modified_gmt":"2025-03-07T22:54:56","slug":"technology-in-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/technology-in-church\/","title":{"rendered":"How (Not) to Use Technology in Church"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple summers ago,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-can-be-your-church-10929518\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mark Zuckerberg suggested that Facebook could replace the church<\/a>. He argued that his technology platform could create a sense of community the face of falling church membership.<\/p>\n<p>Christian leaders, predictably, objected to this idea,\u00a0but\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SkyeJethani\/status\/880072461500514306\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Skye Jethani responded to the hulabaloo with a thread of messages on Twitter<\/a>\u00a0that highlight a subtle problem with these objections: much of the church is just as enamored with the &#8220;dis-incarnation&#8221; of technology as Zuckerberg is.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->I was impressed enough by Skye&#8217;s tweets that I wanted to put them all in one place so we could see the brief argument he lays out. (Plus I hate Twitter threads&#8230; just write a blog post, right?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-30482\" src=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1596\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-768x479.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-1536x957.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-2048x1276.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-640x399.jpg 640w, https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/kelly-sikkema-ikAlhV_zCHo-unsplash-600x374.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Skye&#8217;s rant on technology in church<\/h2>\n<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s what he said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Folks are flipping out about Mark Zuckerburg saying Facebook can replace the church by connecting &amp; leading people, but is he wrong? Facebook gives us the impression of community without all of the drawbacks of actual human interaction.<\/p>\n<p>We can carefully manage our image and only &#8220;friend&#8221; those we agree with. It puts us in control. It also give us immediate access to an incredible about of information.<\/p>\n<p>The downside of social media &amp; tech is that it dis-incarnates us &amp; ultimately cannot satisfy our deepest longings for human connection. Of all people we Christians ought to recognize how essential incarnation is; to know that bodies, flesh, &amp; in-person community matters.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, much of the church is just as enamored w\/ dis-incarnation as Zuckerberg. This is due, ironically, to our commitment Christ&#8217;s mission. Evangelicals in particular have believed that message alone matters &amp; medium is irrelevant. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re eager to employ any &amp; all vehicles for communicating the gospel. Radio, TV, t-shirts, bumper stickers, gum wrappers, political parties, ukuleles, etc.<\/p>\n<p>They say the medium is neutral &amp; only the content of the message matters, but this is so easily shown to be utterly false. For example, we&#8217;d all agree that I can destroy my marriage with only the internet, but can I have a healthy marriage with only the internet?<\/p>\n<p>That silly example shows the medium of the web is capably of great harm but only limited good. In other words, medium matters.<\/p>\n<p>So, when I see church leaders enthusiastically embrace all tech as neutral tools for ministry\/mission, do they understand the implications?<\/p>\n<p>Tech offers us the illusion of omnipresence. It allows us to escape the physical limitations of our bodies to transport ourselves elsewhere. I no longer have to be present with those near me, or even with my own thoughts, thanks to the phone in my pocket. They have become totems giving us the god-like power to escape our bodies. This temptation is especially strong for ministers.<\/p>\n<p>We have a divinely ordained mission; why shouldn\u2019t we us god-like technology to help us reach more people than we could as embodied pastors? Incarnate ministry is slow. The word is transmitted person-to-person. The care of souls requires us to be physically present. How agrarian.<\/p>\n<p>Digital, dis-incarnate ministry means mission can industrialize. Now we can all scale our influence &amp; reach 1,000s via pixels. Dis-incarnate ministry is so much cleaner, so much more efficient, &amp; infinitely more marketable. But is it the way of Jesus?<\/p>\n<p>When Jesus came to dwell among us he \u201cemptied himself\u201d to take on flesh. He set aside his omnipresence to occupy a physical body. Jesus was not everywhere, doing everything, engaging everyone. He accepted the confinement of a body. Incarnation is necessarily limiting.<\/p>\n<p>This is what a minister enamored w\/tech fails to recognize. To be human is to accept our incarnate limitations &amp; embrace them as good. It means emptying ourselves of the prideful desire to be like God, to be omnipresent, and to resist the lies of technology.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus became incarnate to redeem every part of us\u2014mind, soul, and body. Ministry in His name must do the same. Learning the way of Jesus means accepting &amp; embracing our embodied limitations. It also means being physically present w\/those we serve.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying all tech is evil. Heck, I&#8217;m tweeting this rant. But we must be aware of it&#8217;s seduction &amp; the way it dis-incarnates the church. Tech temps us to be everywhere, do everything, &amp; engage everyone, but we can miss what God is doing right where we are.<\/p>\n<p>Ok- done for now. I welcome your thoughts. What is the proper place of tech in church\/mission?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0802416195\/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=bensblog04-20&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;creativeASIN=0802416195&amp;linkId=92c57263b7441c364b167d9ae1b3fde2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-12322\" src=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/immeasurable-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"Immeasurable book cover\" width=\"171\" height=\"260\" \/><\/a>(By the way, if you&#8217;re interested in a fuller treatment of these themes, pick up Skye&#8217;s book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0802416195\/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=bensblog04-20&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;creativeASIN=0802416195&amp;linkId=92c57263b7441c364b167d9ae1b3fde2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Immeasurable: Reflections on the Soul of Ministry in the Age of Church, Inc.<\/em><\/a>)<\/p>\n<h2>The medium matters<\/h2>\n<p>I think Skye brings up a vital question for us to discern as leaders: how do we use technology in church?<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, too many of us don&#8217;t even think of that has a question as something that needs to be discerned. Many of us have so fully bought into the promises of technology that we haven&#8217;t been able to perceive the limitations and crippling side-effects of it when we use it indiscriminately in our churches.<\/p>\n<p>For example, we&#8217;ve assumed that preaching via video does the same work as a preaching in-person. We&#8217;ve assumed that the message is what&#8217;s important, but the medium is neutral. But is it?<\/p>\n<p>Watching a screen shapes and forms me as a consumer of information, while listening to a real person talking to me demands more of my attention and presence. The &#8220;incarnate&#8221; nature of people in the same room together shapes me in a different way.<\/p>\n<p>And while I can certainly learn something from watching a video of someone I don&#8217;t know, is that the same thing as hearing the gospel proclaimed in a particular community, with particular struggles and blessings, by someone that has prayed with me and knows my kids&#8217; names?<\/p>\n<p>All this to say, the medium really does matter! It shapes the message is subtle ways that aren&#8217;t easy to perceive right away, but are vital for us to discern as leaders in Christian communities.<\/p>\n<h2>How do you (not) use technology in church?<\/h2>\n<p>Besides video venues, there are all kinds of other questions about using technology in church that need to be discerned&#8230; like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Giving offerings automatically online vs during worship services<\/li>\n<li>Asking people to use their smartphones during worship to text questions or prayers<\/li>\n<li>Playing videos during church services,\u00a0for announcements or as part of the sermon<\/li>\n<li>Live-streaming your church services<\/li>\n<li>Posting audio or video of your sermons or whole church services online<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This post is mainly here to provoke a discussion: <strong>What do you think about these uses of technology in church?<\/strong> Also:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>What other uses of technology in church have you seen that seek to avoid the limitations of embodiedness, as Skye talks about?<\/li>\n<li>What ways have you used technology in church? What were the results?<\/li>\n<li>What do you say to Skye&#8217;s question?\u00a0What is the proper place of technology in church and mission?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><strong>Leave a comment below to start a conversation.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Zuckerberg said that Facebook could replace church. Could it? 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