{"id":7546,"date":"2016-10-03T07:00:27","date_gmt":"2016-10-03T11:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ben-sternke-live.prev17.rmkr.net\/?p=7546"},"modified":"2025-03-07T18:54:59","modified_gmt":"2025-03-07T22:54:59","slug":"leadership-kill-discipleship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/leadership-kill-discipleship\/","title":{"rendered":"How a Leadership Crisis Is Killing Discipleship in the Church"},"content":{"rendered":"

There\u2019s a\u00a0South Indian proverb that says,\u00a0\u201cNothing grows under a banyan tree.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

And it\u2019s a proverb about leadership, actually. Here\u2019s what I mean.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Banyan leadership\u00a0or banana\u00a0leadership?<\/h2>\n

The banyan is a great tree<\/strong>. It spreads its branches, drops air-roots, develops secondary trunks and covers the land. A full grown banyan may cover more than an acre of land!<\/em><\/p>\n

\"A<\/a>

A banyan tree in Bangladesh (yes that’s ONE tree!)<\/p><\/div>Birds, animals and humans find shelter under its shade. But nothing grows under its dense foliage.<\/strong>\u00a0When it dies, the ground beneath lies barren and scorched.<\/p>\n

The banana tree is the opposite.<\/strong> Six months after it sprouts, small shoots appear around it. The beginnings of new banana trees, a second generation.<\/p>\n

\"Banana<\/a>

Banana tree from Kerala<\/p><\/div>At twelve months another circle of shoots appear beside the first ones, which are now six months old. Third\u00a0generation banana trees are sprouting!<\/p>\n

At eighteen months the main trunk bears fruit: Bananas that\u00a0nourish birds, animals and humans. And then\u2026 it dies.<\/strong><\/p>\n

But the second generation banana trees are now fully grown, and in another six months they too bear fruit and die, and six months after that the third generation does the same.<\/p>\n

The cycles continue unbroken as new sprouts emerge every six months, grow, give birth to more sprouts, bear fruit and die.<\/p>\n

These two trees represent two very different ways of leadership.<\/strong> And we see both ways in the church. Both ways of leadership trying to do the same things, like \u201cmake disciples.\u201d<\/p>\n

And it might seem obvious, but here\u2019s my premise:<\/p>\n

If we want to make disciples in the way of Jesus, we will need to lead in the way of Jesus.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

To put it another way, we simply CAN\u2019T make disciples in the way of Jesus unless we learn to practice leadership in the way of Jesus.<\/p>\n

\u201cBanyan leadership\u201d is sabotaging\u00a0discipleship in the church, but\u00a0we can learn from Jesus how to practice \u201cbanana leadership\u201d that creates a reproducing movement of fruitfulness and flourishing.<\/p>\n

Lording it over them<\/h2>\n

This problem is not new. It\u2019s the\u00a0same problem Jesus\u2019 disciples had: they assumed they knew what it meant to be a leader. They assumed \u201cbanyan leadership.\u201d<\/p>\n

After all, there were models of leadership all around them: chief priests, elders, caesars, kings, patriarchs. It was natural and normal for them to look to these paragons of leadership for their cues on how to carry and express the authority of Christ.<\/p>\n

The only problem is that Jesus specifically challenged \u201cnormal\u201d leadership<\/strong>, both in the way he led and explicitly in his training of the disciples.<\/p>\n

In fact, the way Jesus practiced leadership was extremely challenging and prophetic to almost everyone he met. It stunned his followers and frustrated his enemies.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the same today. Jesus\u2019 leadership continues to cut against the grain of our current leadership models. His paradigm of God\u2019s present kingdom and his posture of self-giving love carved out a way of carrying authority unlike anything else the world has ever seen.<\/p>\n

Jesus talks about this explicitly with his disciples in Luke 22:24-27:<\/p>\n

A dispute also arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. Jesus said to them, \u201cThe kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that.<\/strong> Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves.<\/em><\/p>\n

The prevailing paradigm of leadership in Jesus\u2019 day was embodied by King Herod and Pontius Pilate. They were movers and shakers. Impressive, powerful, charismatic. Large and in charge.<\/p>\n

They \u201clorded it over them,\u201d which means they had a leadership posture of command, control, and domination. They used pressure, intimidation, flattery and bribes to influence others and get their way. Competitive, ambitious, assertive, decisive. Concerned with their renown and reputation.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s interesting that in the American church, these kinds of people are most often seen as having \u201cleadership gifts.\u201d These are the people that are identified for investment and \u201cgrooming\u201d for leadership positions.<\/p>\n

Challenging banyan leadership<\/h2>\n

We face a leadership crisis today in American Christianity.<\/strong>\u00a0Banyan\u00a0leadership is the norm: we celebrate and train leaders to be experts who can command large organization and engineer ministry outcomes. We love banyan leaders.<\/p>\n

We celebrate \u201cgreatness.\u201d The primary way we train leaders for pastoral ministry is through a program by which we confer on people the title \u201cMaster of Divinity.\u201d<\/p>\n

We can be leaders now because we have mastered divinity. We figured God out and now we can use this information to manage churches to produce outcomes.<\/p>\n

You are not to be like that<\/h2>\n

We are enamored with banyan leaders, but Jesus calls us to be banana leaders.<\/strong>\u00a0We are enamored with masters, but Jesus calls us to be servants. We dream of being in charge, but Jesus invites us submit.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe greatest among you must become like the youngest.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

The youngest in Jesus\u2019 day had no power. No rights, no privileges, no way to \u201cpursue happiness.\u201d And they were uneducated. The greatest were the powerful, the bosses, the kings, the experts.<\/p>\n

This statement would have seemed like nonsense to the disciples. How can the greatest become like the youngest?<\/p>\n

Practicing banana leadership<\/h2>\n

In much the same way the banana tree grows. It begins reproducing itself long before any fruit is visible. It doesn\u2019t grow large and swallow up all the life beneath it, like banyan tree.<\/p>\n

Instead, it is actively reproducing itself, giving up its life for the sake of future generations. Like a seed that goes into the ground and dies in order to produce many seeds (John 12:24).<\/p>\n

In this passage, Jesus is essentially saying to his disciples (and us),<\/p>\n

The world is in love with banyan trees because they are impressive, but I call you to be banana trees because they reproduce and multiply by giving up their life for the sake of another tree.<\/em><\/p>\n

Everything depends on us adopting this posture as leaders. We can\u2019t make disciples in the way of Jesus unless we lead in the way of Jesus.<\/p>\n

(Oh, and if you’re interested in the practicalities of becoming a “banana leader,” check out our Gravity Leadership Academy coaching cohorts<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

Questions for reflection:<\/h2>\n
    \n
  • Banyan leaders are impressive, but do not reproduce or cause others to grow. Have you known banyan\u00a0leaders? What impact have they had on your life?<\/li>\n
  • On a scale from 1 to 10, how easy is it for you to be a banyan\u00a0leader? What is attractive to you about that? What is distasteful for you about that?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

    Leave a comment below to participate in the discussion!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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