{"id":14657,"date":"2019-09-05T06:00:54","date_gmt":"2019-09-05T10:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/?p=14657"},"modified":"2025-03-07T18:54:56","modified_gmt":"2025-03-07T22:54:56","slug":"talking-about-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/talking-about-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Do You Know What You\u2019re Talking About When You Say \u201cGod\u201d?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the biggest mistakes we make when talking with others about faith, whether in evangelism or preaching and teaching Scripture, is that <strong>we assume we&#8217;re all talking about the same thing when we say &#8220;God.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->This is <em>way\u00a0<\/em>more than a minor theological issue. There&#8217;s a <em>lot<\/em> at stake in what people imagine when they think of &#8220;God,&#8221; including their very ability to even be open to knowing God. As A.W. Tozer said, &#8220;What comes into our minds when we think about God is the most important thing about us.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Inherited cultural baggage<\/h2>\n<p>We&#8217;ve inherited a lot of cultural baggage that makes talking about God far more difficult than most of us assume it would be, and this is an important pastoral issue for those of us who try and create space for people to encounter God.<\/p>\n<p>For example, check out these excellent <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/cewgreen\/status\/1031934113052352513\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">thoughts from Chris Green<\/a>\u00a0that I discovered awhile back:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ve found that when people say \u201cGod\u201d they\u2019re often if not always referring to whatever it is that makes happen those things they can\u2019t easily explain.<\/p>\n<p>This is often expressed in statements that begin like these:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis has to be God&#8230;\u201d or \u201cIt must have been God because&#8230;\u201d or \u201cOnly God&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This way of imagining assumes that God is just one cause among other causes, one being (the Greatest) among the many. But as the Fathers and Mothers would say, that\u2019s unworthy of the God revealed in Jesus\u2019s life.<\/p>\n<p>Most troublingly, we often reinforce this unworthy imagining of God when we are trying to testify about the good things that have happened to us. How do we speak of God and our relation to God without suggesting these mythical ideas?<\/p>\n<p>For one thing, we can hold a distinction between what is happening to us, whether good or bad, and what God is doing. The first is deep, and so can be known only in part. The latter is infinite and so can\u2019t be known except by faith.<\/p>\n<p>For another, we can actually preach and teach about God and not just about what God can do for us. We need constant reminding, I think, that God isn\u2019t useful. He\u2019s not someone\/thing we simply resource as needed.<\/p>\n<p>And it might help if our ministers (were trained to) read more ancient and medieval theology.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So helpful! (<a href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/podcast\/rediscovering-god-chris-green\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">We had Chris on our podcast<\/a>, too, if you want to hear more from him.)<\/p>\n<p>Chris points out that we can <strong>distinguish between what is happening to us and what God is doing<\/strong>. They&#8217;re not the same thing, necessarily! And we can also focus our preaching and teaching on\u00a0<strong>who God is<\/strong>, not just what God can do for us. His character, not just his activity.<\/p>\n<h2>Who God actually is<\/h2>\n<p>This is exactly why one of the missional theology axioms in <a href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/coaching\/\">our coaching<\/a> is that\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/podcast\/god-like-jesus\/\">God is like Jesus<\/a>\u00a0(and in God is no unChristlikness at all).<\/p>\n<p>We didn&#8217;t originally have this axiom as part of our coaching, but we kept running into the very issue Chris talks about above: we found that when we said &#8220;God,&#8221; we meant something different than what others had in their minds.<\/p>\n<p>(By the way, you can hear all 7 of our missional theology axioms by picking up our free 10-part audio course <a href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/shifts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>7 Vital Paradigm Shifts For Leading Like Jesus<\/strong><\/a> &#8211; because you can&#8217;t BE like Jesus unless you can SEE like Jesus.)<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/checkout\/?product_id=12963\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Get the free audio course now<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-15048 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/pantocrator.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1100\" height=\"619\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So it&#8217;s been important to specify\u00a0<em>who God actually is.<\/em> That Jesus shows us what God is\u00a0<em>really<\/em> like. That Jesus is the radiance of God&#8217;s glory, the exact representation of God&#8217;s being to us. The definitive Word from the Father. The image of the invisible God.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why I love this video clip below from John Behr, an Eastern Orthodox priest and theologian. He says the Christian answer to the question, &#8220;Who is God?&#8221; is simply: Jesus Christ. We start\u00a0<em>there<\/em>, in the actual person and work of Jesus Christ (especially the cross),\u00a0and move outward, not the other way around.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"John Behr - What is God?\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_MVF4XAFEhA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Don&#8217;t speculate, look at Jesus<\/h2>\n<p>Rather than speculate on whether or not &#8220;God&#8221; exists, Christians look at the person of Christ and say, &#8220;This God exists.&#8221; To paraphrase N.T. 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They assume that if their suffering isn&#8217;t alleviated that God is punishing them, or that God doesn&#8217;t care about them, or God is capricious or vindictive.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve found it vital to keep affirming, to borrow a phrase from Brian Zahnd:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>God is like Jesus.<br \/>\nGod has always been like Jesus.<br \/>\nThere has never been a time when God was not like Jesus.<br \/>\nWe have not always known what God is like\u2014<br \/>\nBut now we do.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the biggest mistakes we make when talking with others about faith, whether in evangelism or preaching and teaching Scripture, is that we assume we&#8217;re all talking about the same thing when we say 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