{"id":13750,"date":"2018-06-08T13:30:30","date_gmt":"2018-06-08T17:30:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ben-sternke-live.prev17.rmkr.net\/?p=13750"},"modified":"2025-03-07T18:54:57","modified_gmt":"2025-03-07T22:54:57","slug":"desire-in-discipleship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/desire-in-discipleship\/","title":{"rendered":"What To Do With Desire in Discipleship"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jesus\u2019 first and last words in John\u2019s Gospel are questions.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>\u201cWhat do you want?\u201d<\/strong> he asks two disciples who are following him right after his baptism.<\/li>\n<li><strong>\u201cDo you love me?\u201d<\/strong> he asks Peter three times after his resurrection.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!--more-->These questions aren&#8217;t rhetorical for Jesus. Nor are they leading questions, or passive-aggressive, or shaming.<\/p>\n<p><strong>They are <em>sincere<\/em> questions meant to help the listener own and name their desire.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13763\" src=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/matches.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1279\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>What do you want?<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gravitycommons.com\/es\/one-question-every-disciple\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>What do you want?<\/strong><\/a> is the core question for every disciple of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>But desire makes us nervous. We are anxious that we won\u2019t get what we want or perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t want what we want, and so we have two dominant strategies in the church for dealing with desire:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Kill it, or<\/li>\n<li>Fulfill it.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h2>Killing desire: the &#8220;religious&#8221; option<\/h2>\n<p>Some Christian traditions are scared to death of desire, because desire leads us into sin (the devil is prowling around looking to hook our desires, James says).<\/p>\n<p>And so these Christian traditions seek to <em>kill<\/em> desire. Killing desire includes numbing, ignoring, medicating, or denying our desire. Here are some of the ways this shows up in the church:<\/p>\n<h3>The Selfless Servant<\/h3>\n<p>The Selfless Servant appears to have a &#8220;servant&#8217;s heart.&#8221; They are the first to volunteer to help others, often sacrificing much of their time and energy to give to people when they ask.<\/p>\n<p>But this can be a way that we avoid naming and owning what we really want. Many people who appear selfless have been taught that wanting anything for themselves is selfish and wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Over time, this strategy to kill desire by focusing on what <em>other<\/em> people want breeds resentment. Selfless Servants can live cut off from their hearts, distanced from their deepest desires in the name of &#8220;serving others.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We <em>are<\/em> called as Christians to serve others, of course, but not at the expense of our own hearts. Serving others in love should bring us more fully into awareness of our desires, not distance us from them.<\/p>\n<h3>The Stoic Saint<\/h3>\n<p>The Stoic Saint seems unflappable. Nothing fazes or shakes them. This person traffics in rational, discursive thought. Cool, calm, collected.<\/p>\n<p>Emotional stability can be virtuous, of course. Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit. But the Stoic Saint can also be a consequence of living cut off from our heart and desire: we don\u2019t really feel anything.<\/p>\n<p>Neurologically, the Stoic Saint lives primarily out of their left brain (the logic, analytical region) without much integration with the right side (the creative, emotive region). In effect, the Stoic Saint also lives cut off from their heart, disintegrated, \u201cstuck in their heads,\u201d unaware and unconcerned with what they desire.<\/p>\n<p>Both the Selfless Servant and the Stoic Saint are celebrated in many Christian circles as the paragons of faith. And we want to say \u201cyes\u201d to the servanthood and self-control of each, but we also need to say that these are Christian identities that can keep us from living an abundant, integrated Christian life.<\/p>\n<h2>Fulfilling desire: the &#8220;American&#8221; option<\/h2>\n<p>If the religious option says that desire is evil and we must learn to deny and mistrust our desires in order to please God, the American option treats personal desire as sacred.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Salvation&#8221; consists of overcoming whatever would inhibit or thwart your desire. In the American option, what we want is the truest thing about us, and we trust it implicitly. We take our cues, not from external sources of authority, or tradition, or wisdom, or virtue, but only from our internal desires.<\/p>\n<p>America runs on consumption. Our entire economy is built on the cultivation and fulfillment of consumer desire. Each product, each service offered comes with a promise: fulfill this desire and you will get what you (ultimately) want. The gospel of America is that fulfilling your desires is the surest, quickest way to the life you\u2019ve always dreamed of.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, most of us know (from our own personal experience) this isn\u2019t true! Many non-Christians will attest to this reality as well. Getting our desires met does not lead to happiness.<\/p>\n<p>The American Option leads us into all kinds of addictions, compulsions, and idolatries. We end up in bondage to our desires, unable to will or want other than what our desires tell us we must have.<\/p>\n<p>Neither the American Option nor the Religious Option offer hope to humanity. Jesus shows us a better way to deal with our desire.<\/p>\n<h2>Discerning desire: the Jesus option<\/h2>\n<p>Jesus routinely helped people own and name their desire with him. He saw desire as a doorway into the seat of a person\u2019s heart. Over and over again, Jesus shows a penchant for helping people uncover what they actually want. God meets us most fully right where we really are (that\u2019s how real God is), and desire is a window into our reality.<\/p>\n<p>Desire is a natural part of being human, and individual desires are neither good nor bad: they simply are.\u00a0Like everything else about us, our desires must &#8220;get saved,&#8221; i.e. our desires must be ordered and shaped in the life of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>We spend so much time judging, fixing, denying, seeking, fulfilling, or fearfully protecting our desires, but ground zero for the in-breaking of God\u2019s kingdom is in just <strong>owning<\/strong>, <strong>naming<\/strong>, <strong>submitting<\/strong>, <strong>discerning<\/strong>, and <strong>relinquishing<\/strong> desire.<\/p>\n<p>So here&#8217;s how to <em>discern<\/em> your desires with Jesus:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Own your desire.<\/strong> It\u2019s okay to have wants and desires. We\u2019ve been created with them and we can\u2019t live without them. Learning to own our desires (without apology or demands) can be hard work for many of us who grew up without permission or freedom to do so.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Name your desire.<\/strong> Often our desire is difficult to specifically name. It\u2019s just a craving, or a feeling, or an anxious\/fearful thought. The practice of naming our desire (to God, ourselves, and even others) helps us create some &#8220;distance&#8221; from our wants. The American Option wants you to believe you <em>are\u00a0<\/em>your desire.\u00a0But this isn\u2019t true. I <em>have<\/em> desires, but I <em>am<\/em> not my desires. The practice of naming desire allows us to detangle our disordered relationship to desire so we can begin to meet God in it.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Submit your desire.<\/strong> We own and name desire not so we can solve, fix, demand, or ignore them but so we can submit them to God. We hold them before us and learn to surrender in trust to God in the midst of them. Submitting desire involves facing what we want without apology or fear. God already knows what we really want anyway, so what is there to be afraid of?<\/li>\n<li><strong>Discern your desire.<\/strong> The faithful move Jesus makes in our desire isn\u2019t about killing them or fulfilling them, but rather to <em>discern<\/em> them in light of his kingdom. Discernment takes love and wisdom, and is best done in community. It\u2019s a process of offering our bodies as living sacrifices so we can discern God\u2019s will.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Relinquish your desire.<\/strong> Ultimately, Christ offers us the freedom of desire. We are free to want and desire many things, but as he orders and shapes our desires in his love we find that we are freed from serving the bondage of our desire. This is different than the freedom from desire offered in other religious traditions. The goal isn\u2019t to want nothing; the goal is to have our wants so saturated by the love of God revealed in Jesus that we can want anything, or nothing, or just 1 or 2 somethings. We learn to want rightly as our desire is ordered by divine love.<\/li>\n<\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How do we grapple with our desires as disciples of Jesus? 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